(originally posted in at the other site) ADAC is the organization that responds to essentially every automotive Panne (breakdown) in. Reliability Statistics Bonanza: Thirty Years Of Pannenstatistik. By Paul . Here is what Michael Karesh wrote in about ADAC’s methods. Automotive News Europe 14 July Becker K, Stickel Th () Einfluss von Accessed on 20 November ADAC () Die ADAC Pannenstatistik.

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I do know that the little Toyota Starlet and its relatives were big over-all winners often. Take pannenstatistil all the flat tire tows and see what that leaves you.

In any case, the consensus tends to be that their numbers from the eighties and nineties are good, but that after that it gets more questionable:.

But it is commonly held, by the manufacturers too, that the stats from the late 70s, 80s and 90s is about as good as anything of its kind. Did I not make it perfectly clear in my text that in recent years, these have been increasingly tainted by alleged manipulation by the manufacturers? Sticks in my mind that, by the time Daimler Benz bought the company, it was not doing terribly well, again.

Goes to show once again that one car is a pretty small sample. Did your mother have a flat in ?

Certain German cars creep into the top rankings with the Japanese after a number of years that way, as Japanese cars are purchased by people that rely on their cars for covering huge mileage while Porsche s and Mercedes SLKs average about 5K miles a year in Germany. Some other stamping and parts plants would continue, making Jeep parts.


The fact that certain cars repeatedly scored high or low back in the 80s and 90s tends panjenstatistik a degree of accuracy.

Reliability Statistics Bonanza: Thirty Years Of Pannenstatistik – The Truth About Cars

Of course he tried to move her up into a Sunbird or an ex-rental Grand Am, but as a college student working a graveyard shift even a stripper Sunbird was too much.

Posted May 27, at 3: The Tipo is a good example. It provides a useful look at historical statistics from that era. That being said, some of the European brands may have improved a lot over the last 10 years. When I worked for Avis, we knew when we got 9 new Puntos, 3 would go straight to workshop, but one of my colleagues had an ancient 1. Yeah, good luck getting a Century.

Posted May 26, at 2: Symptomatic of the Rise and Fall of Daimler-Benz? I was mainly interested in this from a historical perspective, because of the Starlet article. I do know that the little Toyota Starlet and its relatives were big over-all winners often.

Posted May 26, at 3: That sums up how I feel about it now.

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Dangle just the US operations, and the answer might well be different. This is what the ADAC says: Paul, does AAA pajnenstatistik similar statistics, or are they too lazy or decentralized?

GM had discontinued most LeMans parts not long after the car was discontinued and the neighborhood shop we always used had called their regular suppliers to no avail.

Posted May 27, at 6: Can you provide evidence for this? But in my opinion, roadside breakdowns are so infrequent now, that the statistical differences are inconclusive.


I can see why Audi tops the list. Even decade after decade. The vast majority of problems are flat batteries or other starting problems, very rarely anything mechanical. RVs, Motorhomes, Trailers, Campers. The company made running changes to resolve several chronic and expensive issues with the design. W and W tops the lists of its class every year, until und the arrival of the W The next driver thinks BMW is super and damns Volvo to hell, and the third only drives Mercedes as he has for the last 30 years.

If you think a more thorough analysis is required, I might be interested in lending my skills. Pretty much any car is reliable enough for me to consider.

Yeah, trade it in for a malaisemobile with a quadrajet and a hp V8. On the contrary to what people are saying above, things like Toyota Starlets are bought here mainly by old age pensioners, that is, people who cover very little mileages, so that has to be brought into account I am not saying they are unreliable, just not ppannenstatistik wonder car the survey makes them out to be.

The BX is basicly a reclothed Peugeot yet only the Citroen shows up as unreliable when one badge proves worse or better signifigantly than its stable mate I call BS statistics.

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